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Well from what i have researched on Maemo, it is more of a full on linux kernel then Android. Although a big supporter of Android myself, Maemo looks to be a truely more linux based platform especially if they fully port the tablet edition to the N900. The ability to easily port an linux application makes this a much better suited platform then Android simply because the amount of linux programs is vast. Granted since space is limited on the N900 this could be seen as a hinderance since most linux programs can eat huge amounts of memory like Open Office. And as far as i can tell this has the most true browser running off of mozilla with flash support(which i could care less about). I think the biggest difference is who is behind each OS. Nokia and a vast open source community are behind Maemo while Google and its community stand behind Android. From a preformance and customability stand point Maemo is looking like the better Smart Phone since it is basically Linux powering it, while Android is a more mass marketed smart phone with bits of linux running it. It might be a hard sell for me to stick with android when it comes time to upgrade especially if the N900 runs as good as they are saying it will.

Are you a developer or a phone company? Android phones are more open for phone makers, but Android only runs Java applications (see usual java rant). Maemo is more open for developers, notably allowing native applications, which are being ported from Linux.

I'd imagine all Android applicaitons will run on Maemo phones by the end of 2010 because Java runs under Maemo now and the Android runtime is being ported. I'm less sure that Maemo will be opened for other phone makers or if other phone makers will close it.

I'd expect the steady state solutions will be :

- Android will run the vast majority of smartphone models, giving buyers their fashion choice, thus breaking the iPhone's fashion monopoly, and eventually growing an enormous consumer development community. Andoird phones will benefit from numerous competing suppliers, thus making them cheaper.

- Maemo will run all Android software plus higher power native professional software, like python, ruby, sql clients, spread sheets, latex, etc. I'd expect non-Android Java software will also run under Maemo, and the native VPNs, VoIP, skype, ssh, scp, gpg, etc. will all run faster under Maemo.

I'd expect many professionals and businesses will choose Maemo for specific applications unavailable under Android, like VPNs, VoIP, python, ruby, etc. while consumers choose Android for price and looks.

Android's Java runtime is sufficiently agnostic enough about mid level libraries that Nokia and Google _could_ actually unite their products, allowing Maemo native software to run on Android phones too, but who knows. :)

Well that more or less tied up my long rant, but Maemo could prove itself to being much more functional, and much more custimizable with all of its apps and native linux support, which android lacks.

I guess you might call me a Maemo hater, however I am not. I am simply a person who wishes that Nokia released a product I would want to have, because I used to be a big Nokia fan back when I had my N82, and after that it all went downhill. Today Nokia releases products that are either too expensive for what they are worth or capable, or they release anachronistic N-models with Symbian nobody wants (especially across the ocean).

If you actually read this we discussed both and listed the benefits of both, we were not saying it won't do good just that android already has a jump on it. The only one i can see thats being a fanboy right now is you.

It pushes Gmail! I knew it had proper IMAP support but you sir have just made my day.

I agree this makes me more interested in Maemo, maybe not as a phone but as a tablet interface. I think i might buy the N810 now.

Regarding Gmail push, does it do it easily right out of the box, or will I need to spend time digging into Maemo hacker forums to find some little app or hack to do it?