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bad English ... sry.. When can HTC haVE Windows Mobile 7?

Everything I've heard from hands on reviews of it, it's very smooth with WM 6.5 The only downside is that it doesn't have a Webkit based browser, but Opera 9.7 and a number of other 3rd party browsers bring new things to the table like support for Flash video, which is a trade off.

I haven't seen any evidence of the HD2 being slower than the iPhone 3Gs. Dont forget that the HD2 runs at more than double the screen resolution of the iPhone ( 800x480 rather than 320x480 ) and inherently multi tasks, so you would be surprised to see it run at twice the speed.

WinMo bashing seems to be en vogue (despite the fact that a many of those bashing WM clearly have never used it!), and to be honest, long over due - 6.1 is fundamentally identical to PocketPC 2003, but the main problems with it really were a result of microsoft leaving it to vendors to customise.
The OS is in fact a complete joy to develop for (Its completely open and free too, unlike the iPhone OS or even Android) - a joy, that is, apart from the inherent lack of consideration of device and screen sizes - there just aren't any standards to comply to.

Its not slow either, its just that as the close button doesn't genuinely close an application, most devices are constantly running more applications than you would on your desktop PC! The other problem with speed was due to complacency by the likes of HTC who released phones (such as my old XDA Orbit 2) without 2D or 3D video drivers installed to save a couple of pence on licensing (the phone had the inactive hardware installed!). It was a PR disaster for HTC and hopefully since the iPhone, HTC and MS have learned to treat users with a bit less contempt!

The Dragon, is based on the same Spec sheet.

No way, my HD2 is signifigantly faster than my iPhone.

The speed comparison would be interesting - especially with Opera Mobile instead of IE. Opera Mobile running on my S80 9300i very surprisingly frequently outstrips my iPhone 3G with a reasonable 3G connection indicated for the important parts of a page to finish loading. And bear in mind that the 9300i is a GPRS-only phone.

My own guess is that OM on WM on Snapdragon will be more than fast enough. However ultimately it's not the speed of the user interface that interests me more than the actual usability of the user interface, and my jury's certainly out on that as far as the HTC is concerned. My guess is that higher-res screen will go a great deal towards lessening the constant need for multitouch gestures which are fun for the first 30 seconds of iPhone ownership (unless you're *really* easy to please), even though the HD2 doesn't have multitouch AFAIK.

This is one of the few phones I've been genuinely interested in recently, so I hope it delivers more fundamental substance than the iPhone does. I've got it on preorder.

You can probably put a lot of money on the HD2 being one of the beta devices for WM7. There have already been hints of this buried in the official HD2 specs "multi-touch compatible - ready for Windows Mobile Chassis 1". This may not necessarily mean that a WM7 upgrade for the HD2 will be released, but HTC have released non minor upgrades at some moments in the past.

I believe it will be the first, or one of the first Windows Phones to get a Windows 7 refresh. the HD2 does meet all of Windows 7 Chassis requirements.

yeah, not only do I agree in that people should never make ultimate comparisons until they try the devices, but you can't compare two very different processors by their clock speeds as far as phones go.

I have an HD2 now....have had it for a few months.