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Not that this will come as a shock or anything, but this week we're talking Apple iPad -- and pretty much nothing else. Yeah, we'll get into a few other tablets, too, like the Dell Mini 5 , the HP slate , the Fusion Garage JooJoo , and so on, but you can definitely consider this one our iPad show! Download: MP3 | AAC Subscribe: iTunes | Zune | MP3 | AAC Music: Mux Mool - Night Court | Michna - Triple Chrome Dipped ...

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9 replies / Originally posted by ryan / Latest reply from Syrinx / Topic is open

By justincharles

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Listening to the podcast now. What I'm really grabbing onto in your discussion is the lack of any emphasis on periodicals in the announcement. Yes, they introduced an iBooks store but that just wasn't what I wanted because I don't see this as a great device for books. The Kindle wins that fight in my opinion and if there's a Kindle app tailored for the iPad I see it continuing to win that fight. The iPad seems made for periodicals to me and I guess maybe Apple doesn't see it that way or just couldn't get it together to make that point in the announcement for any number of reasons.

Granted, my expectations (and a lot other people's) were really absurd but I at least thought Apple would make it clear what an opportunity this device is for magazine and newspaper publishers to create something amazing. Not that anything they'd create would save print but to not even address it in a meaningful way seemed really weird. The New York Times demo was okay, but I wasn't amazed. Perhaps an iNews store or something like that will come later. Maybe developers will deliver the apps I have in mind by launch. However, in my opinion that's something that should have been there right out of the gate and I think it's an important factor in why some people seem so underwhelmed with the announcement.

Posted 1 month ago

By ryan

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Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head -- the Kindle can and will continue to do what the iPad cannot (i.e. be a viable substitute for books). But the disappointment here stems from the fact that the iPad could potentially some things really well that the Kindle currently cannot, such as deliver rich, dynamic, nearly photo-realistic color periodicals with embedded video streams, real-time interactivity, multimedia, etc.

Apple missed a huge opportunity with this one -- but that doesn't mean they won't follow up on it soon enough. One can only hope, because the printed media business is in terrible bad shape right now, and is showing no signs of improvement. The iPad as a newspaper and magazine platform could give print's economics of distribution a shot in the arm, it might also help stem the tide of readers moving to free online publications.

Posted 1 month ago

By ChrisB

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I think Apple's lack of emphasis on periodicals (and TV/movies) is because they didn't get the deals that we heard were thrown around. I think this could be a must have device for any college student, if they do *officially* announce a partnership with McGraw-Hill.

Most "normal" people I've talked to seem pretty disappointed by the iPad. I'm more shocked than disappointed, I expected more. The people who seem most excited are developers, which is a good thing. I think in 6 months there will be some killer apps that get people saying "ok, maybe it's more than a 10" iPod Touch."

Posted 1 month ago

By Syrinx

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I agree. It appeared to me that Apple expected to have more deals with publishers and somehow that didn't pan out on time for the iPad announcement. Like Ryan and Peter, I was sort of expecting a magazine or newspaper service, but instead we got Steve Jobs browsing the internet (with Flash fail, to boot) and some people playing video games.

The interface looked fantastic and super responsive, but I didn't see the "killer app" that was going to convince your average iPod or iPhone buyer to get an iPad.

Posted 1 month ago

By bdegrande

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One comment about using a MiFI, I agree that using it with multiple devices is a plus, but for us very occasional users, Verizon also offers a daily plan - $15 a day with unlimited data. If you use it 5-10 days a year, it makes sense rather than getting even an inexpensive monthly plan, which generally are suitable only for email.

Also, using an iPhone VNC program (I use Remote Tap, but there are plenty of others) to dial into your Mac and open a browser is a workaround for the lack of Flash (you would need either 3G or a MiFi).

Posted 1 month ago

By Neel

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We all knew what was coming (I even called it), but possibly for the first time, there were absolutely no surprises. For such a big launch, I think they had to bring more to the table. There is a lot of Apple to go around, so a little dilution obviously won't make a difference, but that surprised me.


I actually think the size and proportions just look terribly awkward; the aspect ratio seems to be a terrible choice. For videos, widescreen is better and for books, portrait is better. Apple always talks about simple design that lends itself to the content, but huge !back-lit bars around my content does exactly opposite.

There is definitely an appeal for this device for people like us, but we all see the use-case for an iPod Touch as an internet tablet on the couch. I don't know if everyone does, but it's more than a hobby since it's part of their mobile devices collection lol. It'll be interesting to see what they have in store for 4.0 with Win7 and Android looming over; Steve definitely didn't seem to be too happy with Google. I'm gonna be keeping an eye out for access to files and some sort of background usage - it would definitely help sway jailbreakers away from the dark side.

Posted 1 month ago

By Neel

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Just to add about the awkward form factor - I think a smaller device, like a widescreen 7" 1-pound device, would have been a lot more compelling. It would have been a lot easier to use in 1-hand or take with you on-the-go. Typing with your thumbs would probably be a pleasure when held vertically. I think people would also "get" the idea better as many people are now comparing it to small laptops.
Alright, enough dreaming...

Posted 1 month ago

By S4Rs

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Personally I do not like the iPad, and thought apple really should of put OS X on it, not iPhone OS. But I also realized that I will never buy an eReader or a netbook. And I think at 500 bucks, if I was going to buy an eReader or a netbook, I would be dumb to not buy the iPad. I dont think this takes over the tablet market at all. Its trying to use the tablet to take over the eReader and netbook markets.

That said I still will never own one because I will never put iTunes on my PC. get ready for ApplePadSeverice.exe to run with bonjour, iTunesHelper.exe, iPodService.exe, AppleMobiledeviceSupport.exe, and Appleupdate.exe.

Posted 1 month ago

By Verb

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I'm really curious what will happen to the iPhone pricing when the 4th Gen hits. Apple have shown that the 'cost' for a 3g radio is $130. The difference between an iPad with and without 3G is basically the same as that between an iPod Touch and an iPhone. Yet the difference between a similar iPod Touch and iPhone is $400 if I'm right (difference is €420 in Italy). Can Apple maintain that price gap?

Posted 1 month ago

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