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47 replies / Originally posted by dave / Latest reply from deinfinityx / Topic is open
On TechCrunch, Hewitt is quoted as saying, "My decision to stop iPhone development has had everything to do with Apple’s policies. I respect their right to manage their platform however they want, however I am philosophically opposed to the existence of their review process. I am very concerned that they are setting a horrible precedent for other software platforms, and soon gatekeepers will start infesting the lives of every software developer."
And today, Rogue Amoeba, the developers behind the iPhone application Speakers (and makers of many fine Mac applications) announced they are abandoning all further development on the iPhone after Apple took ***3.5 months*** to approve a simple point release for bug fixes. From their blog: "The chorus of disenchanted developers is growing and we’re adding our voices as well. Rogue Amoeba no longer has any plans for additional iPhone applications, and updates to our existing iPhone applications will likely be rare. The iPhone platform had great promise, but that promise is not enough, so we’re focusing on the Mac."
Frankly, I'm excited to see this happen and hope many more developers jump on board. While I really enjoy my iPhone (when it works), the App Store review process is fundamentally broken and is not conducive to innovation. Why spend countless hours and money developing an application for the iPhone when you're not even sure it will be approved in the first place (let alone in a timely matter).
Something needs to happen.
We previously discussed a similar topic to this a few months ago:
Would an App Strike work against Apple?
http://discuss.gdgt.com/apple/general/would-an-app-strik
e-work-against-apple/
Other relevant links:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/11/joe-hewitt-develope
r-of-facebooks-massively-popular-iphone-app-quits-the-pr
oject/
http://www.rogueamoeba.com/utm/
http://www.mikeash.com/?page=pyblog/the-iphone-developme
nt-story-one-year-later.html
http://carpeaqua.com/2009/10/16/back-to-the-mac/
Also, XKCD weighs in:
http://xkcd.com/662/
Posted 2 months ago
Apple's policy is anti-consumer and anti-technology. It's a shame the iPhone is so popular when there are alternatives that don't play big brother to their customers.
Posted 2 months ago
Posted 2 months ago
But the question remains, where will the devs go? My bet is Android but maybe something like Maemo, Symbian or BB could get lucky. Androids advantage is size, Maemos is language iPhone devs get C already (and Unix OSs) so there's less of a jump, WebOS might get some of the devs who have lightweight apps and like pretty interfaces.Not sure about BB, Symbian or WinMo (depends on the HD2)
Posted 2 months ago
My hope is that Google cleans up the UI to make the "default" more standardized for people to use. Android itself still has a lot of work it needs to do to get up to feature parity with the iPhone OS.
Posted 2 months ago
Posted 2 months ago
But got fed up of Apple's control habits and did the best thing I can as a customer: stop buying their products. So I sold off my iPhone and plan on not buying any of their products until something is done about it. Not really my loss since Windows 7 isn't bad and Blackberries are far better with the communicating than most which is what I use my cell phone for.
Posted 2 months ago
Posted 2 months ago
I do enjoy my iPhone (which always works for me) but Apple needs to work on the PR around this all.
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If the iPhone allowed this (unlikely given Apple's apparent dislike of giving their customers freedom) they would have a massive app store that most (i.e. non-tech) users would use and an alternative way for the more tech savvy consumers to get apps that don't meet Steve Jobs's personal standards and tastes.
But the iPhone's demographic is mostly not tech savvy and/or interested in the details. They just want to tap the screen and download Facebook.
It's sad that in the year 2009 a technology company is trying to enforce its values on its customers.
Posted 2 months ago
I don't get why people assume this. Nearly every person I know in the tech world (including the majority of the gdgt team) use iPhones.
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While that may be true, that isn't the mainstream demographic of consumers. We are the 20 of the 80/20. People turn to Apple products for ease of use and quality — it is part of their brand identity — and the approval process controls this tightly. Opening up the iPhone for side loading will cut into Apple's profits and control over user experience, but I am interested in seeing how this will play out with the rise of Android. I welcome the competition more than anything because clearly the iPhone honeymoon is over.
Posted 2 months ago
The iPhone is popular across a huge variety of demographics and only a small percentage of any given group is particularly tech savvy so the overall numbers lean towards people who probably have not even heard of android.
Posted 2 months ago
Posted 2 months ago
Also, I really think 'working on the approval process' is missing the point completely. The problem is that Apple wants to control what content is available on their hardware. This is a Very Bad Thing.
Improving the approval process would make the product better, but it's not fixing the actual problem - just a few side effect symptoms.
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Posted 2 months ago
That's completely unacceptable. Totally bummed to hear that.
Posted 2 months ago
Posted 2 months ago
*facepalm*
It's free anyways. It was a cute little game is all.
Posted 2 months ago
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In all seriousness that sucks. Good luck!
Posted 2 months ago
Unfortunately, now that Apple has so much momentum it is going to be difficult to catch up. Obviously, Google needs to be aggressive about reaching out to angry iPhone developers. Perhaps more importantly they need to be aggressive about bribing the top iPhone developers who are ambivalent about Apple's app policies.
Great applications will drive sales of Android devices and greater device sales will drive more application development, but Google will have to grease some palms to really get things started.
Posted 2 months ago
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By brettdunnam
Joined: Jul 1, 2009
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I think it is funny that Apple is trying to appease the masses by letting you check on the progress of your app: http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/11/apple-lets-devs-bite-
their-nails-in-real-time-as-iphone-apps-nav/
It doesn't matter whether or not I can SEE that an app update is waiting to be approved for 3.5 months, it's the fact that it takes 3.5 months in the first place. Come on, Apple. You're going to have to try harder than that.
Posted 2 months ago