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20 replies / Originally posted by ryan / Latest reply from drawkward / Topic is open
But damn it, E Ink still has the look and eye-feel of paper, and after spending the last few decades reading and working on a computer, I feel pretty confident that iPad isn't going to take the place of reading real books or reading on E Ink based devices. (At least not until the iPad gets a display that is as comfortable on the eyes to read as E Ink is.) That isn't to say the iPad won't be a success (for more on that, see gdgt weekly 071: http://features.gdgt.com/2010/01/30/gdgt-weekly-071/ ). But the best device for reading books, the iPad is definitely not -- iBooks or no iBooks.
Another thing I picked up today was the December 2009 issue of Newsweek. (Yeah, Veronica and I are subscribers of the paper edition.) In it there's an interview with Jeff Bezos that, obviously, came pre-iPad; but it's pretty telling stuff, and I can't say I disagree with what Jeff is laying down. Check it out:
Q: So an Apple tablet would be a companion to the Kindle?
A: Absolutely. We've got Kindle for PC. And we're working on Kindle for the Mac. Our vision is that we want you to be able to read Kindle books wherever you want to read your Kindle books.
Q: Ultimately do you not even care about selling the physical Kindle itself?
A: No, we do care. Our goal with the Kindle device is separate from the Kindle bookstore. ***With the Kindle bookstore, wherever you want to read we're going to support you. And then for the Kindle device, we want that to be the world's best purpose-built reading device. It's not a Swiss Army knife. It's not going to do a bunch of different things. We believe that reading deserves a dedicated device, and we want Kindle to be that device.*** [Emphasis mine.] It's like a digital camera. I like having the digital camera on my smart phone, but I also like having a dedicated camera for when I want to take real pictures.
From: http://www.newsweek.com/id/227751
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That said, I can't forsee getting rid of my ebook reader. A tablet with an LCD screen simply can't compete in my eyes. It is only a matter of time before ereaders get cheaper and the screens get even better.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/the-e-reader-story-of
-ces-2010/
Engadget's CES '10 e-reader feature ends saying:
"As such, dedicated monochrome E-Ink devices like Kindle and the Sony Reader will be forced even deeper into the niche they now serve as the year plays out. One thing's for sure -- monochrome electronic ink displays are not the future of e-readers. If you ask us, the smart money is on multi-purpose devices running hybrid displays from Pixel Qi (or similar) like Notion Ink's Adam. Not only does this avoid lock in to a single content provider, but you maintain full Internet access with the ability to subscribe to materials from Skiff, Barnes & Noble, Borders, Blio, Google, and iTunes, for example, while enjoying the type of rich multimedia experiences that main stream media publications are keen to pursue.
Kindle, and its E Ink peers, are officially on notice."
The vaunted eyestrain advantage of e-ink, in my opinion, has been overstated and is merely "the best way to read long-form with bad habits". This NYT article suggests that e-ink provides worse contrast than some print and more eyestrain in dim environments compared to LCD and significant eyestrain in bright environments. It also notes that LCDs cannot harm your eyes.
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/12/do-e-readers-ca
use-eye-strain/
The main takeaway is that display technology matters, but reading habits by far have more effect on eyestrain than anything else.
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As much as we all love converged devices, there's still absolutely nothing wrong with products that are specifically suited both technologically and physically to particular tasks.
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About the only thing I see missing from the Kindle 2 is a crossword app or a comic strip app.
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I would love to see apps come to the nook, as it is running android afterall, but I also agree with rgersmrk that the lack of distraction on the dedicated ereader is a really nice change from the barrage of emails, tweets, facebook updates, and new google reader items I'm normally chasing.
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I think a lot of people will find the iPad useful for reading, but people who love reading and/or love gadgets will stick with dedicated readers.
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E-ink is just too slow to be usable. If your only use for a reader is reading a novel, then the slow page turns are less important. But trying to rapidly navigate a text-book - or skim reading is just too frustrating. The sluggish nature of the screen limits the device to just one style of reading.
An LCD device not only brings color, but speed and flexibility.
Certainly, the readability of e-ink's frontlit dark-grey-on-light-grey is fine. Not as good as paper but not bad.
But I spend every working day reading from backlit LCD screens. Far more time than I spend reading from paper.
The idea that LCD is "less readable" is clearly nonsense.
C.
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I agree that (at least currently) e-ink is next to useless for flipping through a reference book. But then again, I don't think it's all to do with the screen refresh. I can't read a PDF of a reference book on a computer either. It's just so much easier to flip actual physical pages.
I also read more on LCD than on e-ink, but reading on e-ink is reading for pleasure. LCDs are hard on my eyes. It's fine for work, where I'm usually reading short bites of text, emails, etc, not reading solid blocks of text for long periods (and my work is mostly writing). I still tend to print out a lot of documents because it's far more comfortable and natural to read on paper.
It's difficult to explain, but reading large amounts on an LCD just makes me lose enthusiasm and get weary. It's like when I hear music that is recorded too loud and although my ears don't actually hurt, I just have to turn off the music due to a tangible discomfort. I don't get that when using my ereader.
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